Intro

Actress, producer, and entrepreneur Tracee Ellis Ross feels really strange, excited, a little squirrelly about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.

Tracee sits down with Conan to talk about getting the wiggles out, the characters that have developed out of her love of fashion, exploring questions of identity and race with Black-ish, and more. Plus, producer Matt Gourley shares the origin of his H. R. Giger obsession.

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