
Ep. 102 - Women's Ministry
The Pactum
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The Pactum Sofa
"We don't say journey on the Pactum except in a mocking way because, you know, every church that's born five minutes ago has journey in the name," she says. "In our imaginations, it's a bright green or orange could be either one, whatever it means to you." Her husband and three children are celebrating their 20th year of marriage this year.
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