I'm curious if there are any packages you know out there that you think are particularly useful based on your research. Are we just hammering the mindfulness button over and over again and thinking that's going to solve all of our problems or are we kind of bringing in a rich tapestry an ecology of different approaches that sort of balance each other out? I don't see it as nascent I see it as beginning and part of what the urgency and perhaps the passion of my work is  to meet the people and and work with them like and building this.

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