Is Tencent Better Than Alibaba?

You can't mention Denson, the non-mention Alibaba, you have to have both. Now, honestly, like my takeaway after hearing those stories of Alibaba versus Tencent was that Tencent did it better and ended up winning a lot of those battles. Like WeChat Pay, I don't know how much they've won that versus Alipay, but I think they did good with that. And then there was a company, I think it was Maituan where it was either Maituan or DD, where it was first with Alibaba and then it ended up with Tencent. How did you feel about that competition? Did you feel like Tencent was winning over and