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394: Lessons from the Stoics. Discipline, Leadership, Life. With Ryan Holiday.
Jocko Podcast
The Art of Making and Marketing Work That Lasts
"I don't actually care about marketing books. I care about making stuff that lasts," she says. "It's funny that publishing industry, all of the money and all of the success is on things that are old,. What they call perennial titles or the backlist."
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