If counting calories was successful, you i would be the first guy out here telling people to count their salories. But if you actually look at the success rate of counting salories, it's about one to five %. And that's why doctors have sort of largely abandoned the field. They're selling themselves as being better than other people because they've grown up on this whole calory thing and don't really want to re learn it. Hay: It's very hard to make any of them see the actual point of a lot of stuff they don't understand.