Hope has sometimes been made out to be something we possess, something we hold like a shield to protect us from pain. But Norman wants to recast hope as something we do, and most importantly, as something that is animated by love. He talks through some of the different textures of hope to bring out more of its richness so that it might better form us through times of crisis.

Theme song and credits music by Breakmaster Cylinder. Other music in this episode by Simon Stevens  courtesy of Shutterstock, Inc.

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