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125: Book Hangovers (w/ Sarah Urist Green!)

Dear Hank & John

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How to Make the Most of Your Phone Calls

If you want to have a job, be the kind of per awho's good at calling strangers. It's such a great life skill, but we don't have it, and neither does kelly. So here's my advice, kelly, you just got to work yourself up. And then what i like to do with difficult things is break them into tiny, little constituent parts. We're going to make one more call, and then you're done for the week. But who had the wherewithal and the contacts to get this bookcase made and paid for? Oh, definitely you. I think you actually made the relevant phone calls. Neither of us is particularly good at

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