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#395 w/ Katherine Mangu-Ward "Nothing Is True and Debate is Murder"

The Fifth Column

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Are You Fucking Kidding Me?

I can't imagine what's happening inside the newsroom right now, like inside the building, the internal politics. The standards that these people apply are quite different. We should reach out to GLAD and some of these other folks. And perhaps the concern that they have is specifically about the pieces of legislation that have been passed by a couple of different states.

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