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050: We Can Be Heroes with Jason Ogle
User Defenders – UX Design & Personal Growth
The Biggest Hero in My Work
Justin Smith: My wife has just been a pillar for me and kind of like, let's pick up where we left off with the agency. I've been laid off probably five times in this field, in this industry, and it can be somewhat cutthroat again. When times are tough, which we've had a lot of tough times from 2000 till now, what happens is companies tend to cut their marketing budgets. And therefore, unless there's some really smart people that are, they're trying to figure out how,. you know, kind of planning ahead for things like this.
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