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325: ‘The Negative Version of Icing on the Cake’, With Nilay Patel

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Is Apple Selling a Lot of Iphones?

The carriers are just going to give you money, and that money is baked back into a more expensive five g plan. Apple needs the carriers to participate in this pretty intense subsidy programme. The carriers want five g phones. They want to switch over that network and get away from d s s as fast as they can. So there's, i don't know if it's untenable apple selling a lot of phones, but there's a part of the business relationship that tly prevents them from evaluating the carriers to the customer. But when you ask them questions about the gular iphone 13 ultra wide in comparison, they'll only say good things about the 13 pro lens. And you

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