How to Use Suffering to Reach Your Goals

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He drew a line somewhere where this is us and that's them. It's the circle of empathy. He was not indifferent in the sense that he didn't see it as useful if he inflicted suffering. That was not the goal. The question was, how can I use suffering and the infliction of suffering to reach my goals from his perspective? Different societies throughout history put different value on the... Different individuals, different psyches. But also even the objective of avoiding suffering. This is where religious belief really helps.

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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:15) – Life is hard
(09:38) – Consciousness
(16:24) – What is life?
(26:33) – Free will
(40:38) – Simulation
(42:49) – Base layer of reality
(58:24) – Boston Dynamics
(1:06:43) – Engineering consciousness
(1:17:12) – Suffering
(1:26:06) – Postmodernism
(1:30:25) – Psychedelics
(1:43:40) – GPT-3
(1:52:22) – GPT-4
(1:58:47) – OpenAI Codex
(2:01:02) – Humans vs AI: Who is more dangerous?
(2:17:47) – Hitler
(2:22:44) – Autonomous weapon systems
(2:30:11) – Mark Zuckerberg
(2:35:47) – Love
(2:50:00) – Michael Malice and anarchism
(3:06:57) – Love
(3:11:05) – Advice for young people
(3:15:42) – Meaning of life