"I've tried to read Paradise Lost, can't do it. I even have a book that he happened to have bought before he took the course called it reading Paradise Lost." "The idea that there is a master teacher or a master trainer who with their help can open this un-inaccessible, world too hard for you to enter on your own ... That's also deeply appealing to people," she says. 'It's naturally community building when something is hard'

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