The Quit, the Power of Knowing When to Walk Away

John, I've thought a lot about you coming in because so many pastors I know are struggling right now. And I think that CT is on the precipice of some really, really good and exciting days ahead. So if I would ask you that, what's the goal of climbing a mountain? Surviving. That's good. But most people say get to the top. The goal is getting back down to the bottom, right? A lot.