So creating your list, firenation, ask yourself this question, who is where i want to be right now? There can be a lot of things to go into that industry, vertical niche. Who is where you to be? Those the people that make sense. And just like travis set at such a great point, people in that nich are connected,. Like back in 20 12. So what i was doing before was just in theory, because people weren't askd actually asking me these questions and wanting to beom my show and things. But now it's like, ok, for sure, i i was right, you know. It's like validation for sure.

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