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Chris Hayes on the crisis of elites and the politics of order

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

CHAPTER

The Disadvantages of Immigration

Trump reframed immigration as an issue of crime, not of economy. He literally took the New York City crime playbook of the Giuliani years and applied it to immigration. The way he talks about the border is the way people in New York would talk about graffiti on the subway. In that sense, like there are these divisions.

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