How Horseshit Can Be on the Way to Something Good

"I think the path to true good stuff is sometimes paved with things that just are irrevocably horseshit," he says. "There's like a little bit of a faking it till you make it sort of positivity that doesn't hurt anybody." Tony Robbins once said, 'Don't eat fruit before noon' and then went back on his word. The pair have an imaginary conversation about how horseshit can be on the way to something good.