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The Importance of Relationships in Writing
Cody: Did you feel in the process of writing that that was your hope for us that we could have a kind of relational contact with you? And at the heart of this, I'm really asking what the hope for the book was. John: "I wanted to, I wanted to touch people, but to be honest, when I'm writing, I don't tend to really think too many big abstract thoughts about like, what am I trying to do?" He says he hopes it makes people more optimistic about change.