Introduction

Carrie Newhof: We are in the middle of our Integrity series. It's a mini series on the state of Integrity in the Church. My guest is Chuck Grewt, professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality. He says narcissism isn't just about who you work for; it's a good look in the mirror. Carrie: Do you ever feel like you pour your heart into your Sunday morning message and people are forgetting it by the time they drive away from brunch? I have a 16 minute preaching workshop to help solve that problem.