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Certainty, Hell, Evil, and Universalism: A Conversation with Keith DeRose

A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar

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The Problem of Horrible Suffering

If you believe in an afterlife where at least many people will enjoy unending joy with God, then this world should lead to the conclusion that there is no God. You really need the afterlife and you need pretty much everybody getting there in order to make sense of people being put through this life. The problem of horrific suffering should be a Theism killer if you can add to it that this life is all there is. That's what you're atheist who believes in heaven, basically. And then you'll think, I think this is like should be unsurprising.

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