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Why did the Ottoman Caliphate fall 99 years ago? - with Dr Yakoob Ahmed

The Thinking Muslim

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The Importance of Modernity in the Ottoman Empire

Sotan of the Hamidah 2nd was also part of that debate and in many ways he was trying to filter for the good from the bad. Today if you spoke to Muslim thinkers today they would say that you know Islam and modernity just okay that's a mistake so when the Ottomans are trying to negotiate with this do you blame them? "I always say it's like Michael I'm livable where you've got different teams around you who got billionaire owners"

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