Michael Wolraich: I like Darren Brown a lot in terms of showing the impermissible stuff. But he's kind of using the techniques you're talking about, but in an ethical way because he's basically saying right up front, this is going to look supernatural and it's not. He does get these people to do that. It really takes concerted effort. Some people are highly skilled. So you can say, I'm not hypnotizable. And then someone really skilled can do maneuvers and double bind you so that you get totally confused and disoriented. That's manipulation. The point that I wasn't totally agreeing with you on is that some people arehighly skilled. You have to

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