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In this episode, my guest is Jamie Kreiner, the author of The Wandering Mind: What Medieval Monks Can Tell Us About Distraction. Jamie is a professor of history at the University of Georgia. Her work has been awarded prizes from organizations such as the Medieval Academy of America and the American Society for Environmental History. Jamie’s new book has been called “A compelling call to address our current distracted moment with both more seriousness and more humility.”

In the conversation, Jamie and I discuss,

Discerning our way
Why distraction is a perennial problem
How to observe the mind
The role of reading in training the mind
Wisdom in daily life and much more

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How to “Think” About Change
Thinking 101 with Woo-kyoung Ahn
The Medieval Craft of Memory by Mary Carruthers
The Discipline of Discernment with Dr. Brian Russell

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