I think part of your success is because you can just really you're You have so much love for these people that you you talk to like the guests when you Call me up on the phone. And I think that's a remarkable skill to have as the base level and if more people had that the world would be a better place. So it's not just like to assholes talking on a podcast about podcasting But I think when you're communicating with people What you got to understand is that in this very complex world we live inThe loud fucking just Annoying people on there oversimplify all human beings. They try to label everyone down to one or two things depending on whatever their

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