Is Baptism the Cause of Regeneration?

The wayo aa, george beasley, murray was the other one. He's an old a ais o who gets into this and ends up having a very high view of baptism. But i don't think it would be where you and i would differ on those questions. Ahye. I almost have to ety me to allon er misis ai've got it o r here,. A but he has a view that, he admits himself, runs extremely contrary to his own denomination. The fathers associated baptism with forgiveness, o remission of sins. And they're talking about baptism itself as that moment of forgiveness. It's not necessarily saying that that's where,