Aubrey and I built this like ads business that did very well very fast. And, and so yeah, tons of learning that super dope people did a lot of inner work during that time. So then come 20 in the 2019. Aubrey was like, you're coming with me. Like, I know you want to start a company. He's like, I will help you started a company. Let's do this now. It took about like six months. The commute went away but it was actually a huge blessing because radio died. All the advertisers switched from radio to podcasting. And so then I was starting to able to fill people. And so I went from around 800

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