Eleanor Ostrom's core design principles that she, as you say, drew them out through studying the commons. What if they're actually valuable also in the state? Can we redesign state services to be much more like forms of cooperation? And there's a nursing cooperative in the Netherlands where they work in groups of everything around 12 nurses and it's totally distributed. So we can bring these design principles and say they don't just belong in the commons. We may have discovered them through the Commons but maybe they infuse the way we relate through all of these different forms of organizing.

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