Caroline Paul is a thrill-seeker and writer who is on a quest to encourage women to get outside and embrace adventure as they age. She and Steve talk about fighting fires, walking on airplane wings, and finding awe in birdwatching.

SOURCE:
- Caroline Paul, author and former firefighter.

RESOURCES:
- Tough Broad: From Boogie Boarding to Wing Walking ― How Outdoor Adventure Improves Our Lives as We Age, by Caroline Paul (2024).
- "FAA Halts Sequim Wing-Walking Flights, Revokes Owner’s Pilot License," by Dominic Gates (The Seattle Times, 2024).
- "How a Bit of Awe Can Improve Your Health," by Hope Reese (The New York Times, 2023).
- The Gutsy Girl: Escapades for Your Life of Epic Adventure, by Caroline Paul (2016).
- "Why Do We Teach Girls That It’s Cute to Be Scared?" by Caroline Paul (The New York Times, 2016).
- "What if Age Is Nothing but a Mind-Set?" by Bruce Grierson (The New York Times Magazine, 2014).
- Lost Cat: A True Story of Love, Desperation, and GPS Technology, by Caroline Paul (2013).
- "The Cognitive Benefits of Interacting With Nature," by Marc G. Berman, John Jonides, and Stephen Kaplan (Psychological Science, 2008).
- "Longevity Increased by Positive Self-Perceptions of Aging," by Becca R. Levy, Martin D. Slade, Suzanne R. Kunkel, and Stanislav V. Kasl (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2002).
- Fighting Fire, by Caroline Paul (1998).

EXTRAS:
- "Is Fear Running Your Life?" by No Stupid Questions (2024).
- "Arnold Schwarzenegger Has Some Advice for You," by People I (Mostly) Admire (2024).
- "Should You Spend More Time in Nature?" by No Stupid Questions (2023).
- "Steven Pinker: 'I Manage My Controversy Portfolio Carefully,'" by People I (Mostly) Admire (2020).

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