Speaker 2
Ye, it's an interesting one to think about. The vast majority of people with whom you disagree are convinced of their position. Most people aren't disagreeing with you with the information that you have in your head and then wilfully deciding to get rid of that and then just take some opposite point of view. No, they're convinced. Of course they are. If you had what they had in heads, you would be convinced of it as well, exactly.
Speaker 1
You know, i've told people many times we were fighting against alcaida or the talibon. Had i had their life journey, i'd think exactly what they think, and i'd be on their side of the table. So
Speaker 2
again, they're not irrational, it's just from a different perspective. This is why we need to be incredibly careful about judging the ons of people, especially from the past. There's a lot of retrospective shaming that we're doing at the moment on social media. And you need to think, man like, can you judge the actions of yesterday by the standards of to day? No, no. Anybody, anybody that spends even a minute thinking about that realizes that that's not an effective route to go down. Does that mean that you should still propagate those ideas to day? No not. There are some things that need to, you know, they need to be lost to the winds of time, but they were there. And you can't call people evil, like throwing terms around, like evil people. John peterson talks about this. He says, people presume that if they lived in world war two germany, that they wouldn't have been one of the natses. It's like, no, of course you would. Like you would have had to have been an unbelievably unique human for that too, have not been the case. Esaty
Speaker 1
rigt. One of the beauties though is the people in the past ore dead. Can't fight back. So we can rip their names off buildings, knock down their statues, criticise them all day long, because they're not here to defend themselves. What
Speaker 2
about adaptability? If
Speaker 1
we don't adapt, we lose. And yet, and we all think we're adaptable. You know, we all say, well, i adapt it whatever. But the reality is, adaptation requires a couple of things. It requires some reason to adapt, some either what you have ist working, and then the ability to adapt. You ga have enough manoeuvre space to adapt. In the book, we talk about dick fosbery, who changed the way people did high jumping. And he did that after trying every other technique for years to be a high jumper, not being competitive. But he came up with the idea you could throw yourself or backwards. But he could only do that because theyd changed the landing areas. They used to just us sand. You did the high job, literally land or a little bit of sand. If you landed back on your your neck, you'd break your neck. So they didn't. By the time he i in 19 68, they had these big, thick crash pads. So it's actually a different sport. It's a different challenge because he can do things that would have beenu il ten years before. And so you've got to understand when the requirement to adapt is there and the ability to adapt enough freedom of action to adapt. And then of course, we got to be mentally willing to adapt, because it gets back to inertia. Many times we won't adapt just because we're used to what we're doing, or because we're scared to adapt. Oh, we haven't thought about it. There's any number of reasons we don't adapt naturally. I like we think we do, but i think we only adapt when, you know, it's kind of forced upon us.