The Costs of Interventions in the United States

I think it's very, very hard to say whether we would have been in a different place because we had an administration when this started. I don't know if you remember that was hell bent on using this to political gain. There are a number of people who looking at the way COVID played out globally, how even in countries where things seem to go well early on, things didn't go well later. We were not prepared. Our public health systems and our health care systems just suffered from our total failure to invest in them ahead of the pandemic.