Democracy Is a Catalyst for Human Violence

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Diversity has been, for certain societies and countries, a catalist for violence. Some of the greatest injustices in history involved conflict between different aphnic, religious or other kinds of identity groups. You might think democracy is going to solve us, but it's not at all clearer that's the case. Most democracies in history have defined themselves by their aphenic purity.

Yascha Mounk is a professor at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, a contributing writer at The Atlantic, and the founder of Persuasion. His new book, The Great Experiment: Why Diverse Democracies Fall Apart and How They Can Endure, was published this week.

In this week’s conversation, Ravi Gupta and Yascha Mounk discuss why it is so hard to build diverse democracies, how we can overcome the deeply human instinct to discriminate against those unlike ourselves, and why he remains optimistic about the prospects of the “great experiment.”

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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