I think it comes back to this ROI argument that does exist. I listen to a podcast recently on Future Thinkers by Daniel Schmachtenberger. And he spoke about the current economic system because it feels to me like this movement, which I fully subscribe to come against the current economic System. It's a system that is not just attracting but in centing and conditioning a kind of abstract psychopathy where shutting off your empathy actually leads to success. How do you persuade Goldman Sachs not to be that kind of company?