Winston Sterzel (@serpentza) is a South African vlogger and video producer who lived in Shenzhen in the Guangdong province of China for 14 years. He hosts his own YouTube channel as SerpentZA and co-hosts vlog ADVChina with Laowhy86.

What We Discuss with Winston Sterzel:

• How does the pig-butchering scam work, and why is it called this?
• Who tends to be the most common target of the pig-butchering scam, and how has this changed since its inception?
• The psychological levers that get used to manipulate victims of the pig-butchering scam, and how they differ from more traditional scams.
• How much time and effort pig-butchering scammers will invest in fattening up their victims for the big kill (and how Winston has made a game of wasting their time and effort when he's been their mark).
• Warnings from people who have fallen for the pig-butchering scam and how you can avoid being next.
• And much more...

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