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Anand Giridharadas on the elite charade of changing the world

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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The Importance of Public Service

Government and public service is considered ineffective if you're not at the very top levels of it. I've known a lot of really good people who came into government and left with very very deep disillusionment, he says. "The idea that you can just go into government and and get the change you seek is itself a naive idea"

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