Bryan: Travis calonick is so well known for this, and obviously garrett's a genius. And that he picked an operator to act as though he were a founder, i think it was an amazing sort of move. Beth: I think we tend to want and hope that women are a monolith, especially within tech. She says she got jill and rachel wrong completely. They just don't behave likeaat they just, im, sorry,. It's justi we were laughingad, i've got on text with them. The ariona maners character did a great job, but ariona was even more than she portrayed in the show.