371 | Evan Thomas: The Atomic Bomb's Legacy in a Disordered World
The Realignment
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What Makes a Country Survive?
"I have a kind of a dark view of human nature. Maybe it's a glorious view in the sense that people gloriously fight at the end," he says. "But I, you know, you look at Ukraine is heroic, but they're not going to want to give up." He adds: "And unfortunately Putin's survival depends on him fighting".
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