In this week's episode of Saturn Returns join Caggie in conversation with Katherine Morgan Schafler, a licensed psychotherapist, writer, and speaker based in New York City, who is also the author of the book 'The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control.' In this insightful discussion, Caggie and Katherine explore the complex nature of perfectionism, a common challenge that many encounter during their Saturn Return as perfectionism is an aspect of the shadow side of Saturn. They discuss the unattainable standards and nagging desire for perfection that can often arise during this transformative time of life but how this ultimately causes us to stall, sabotage and leave things unfinished. Drawing from her clinical expertise, Katherine dispels myths about perfectionism and breaks down the five main types she has identified. She also shares her insights on the links between addiction and perfectionism, based on her experiences as a psychotherapist. Throughout the episode, Caggie and Katherine emphasise the importance of self-worth and returning to one's core values as key elements in finding contentment and a sense of completeness. Tune in to this thought-provoking conversation as they unpack the nuances of perfectionism and offer practical strategies for navigating this common challenge during the Saturn Return phase and beyond.

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