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The 11th Plague - with Fania Oz-Salzberger & Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

CHAPTER

Navigating Anti-Zionist Narratives and Controversial Sentiments

Reflecting on the challenges of incorporating anti-Zionist perspectives in a Seder while discussing the controversial 'death to Israel' chant incident and its impact on the Palestinian cause. The chapter also explores humorous intersections with popular culture and highlights frustrations with unconventional decisions in Israel's home front command.

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Speaker 2
i there these have been around for a while you know the anti-xianist so they're out they are a little sort of counter tradition and the i always wonder uh how they how they deal with the closing uh song chart prayer of the proceedings which is the shana ababa yurushalayim next year in jurusalam i do just before people sort of write in i know how they deal with it which is it's all a metaphor and jurusalam and israel and xion are just metaphors for a better world is is i think the way out of it but yes it is a challenge to mount uh a seeder with an anti-xianist narrative given it's about the children of israel returning to israel um so worthy winner in the same zone the footage was shared this week by omid jaleeli who is a british-iranian actor and performer uh where in which he was pretty dumbfounded by seeing video of a sort of teaching for american left activist i realize they are the target of both of our uh kudzpah nominations the the american left wait
Speaker 3
i got a third so don't worry about it okay oh good so
Speaker 2
they're they're having a kind of teach in where they are being taught the chance they should uh cry and the instructor is teaching them in farsi a chant which they very happily chant uh they do it once or twice their whole book chorus they give him applause and then somebody thinks to ask him what the chant means that they've been learning and he tells them it means death to israel
Speaker 3
um she says it's
Speaker 2
either down with israel or death to israel there's two different nations i mean there are two possibilities down down with israel or death to israel and then someone in the group eager to ingrati himself with the teacher then goes can we get a death to america yeah sure says the teacher to these american leftists and leads them all in a collective chant of death to america um omid jaleeli and others have seized on this and said you know the
Speaker 3
palestinians really do need better allies than people like this who overly damage their cause uh and alienate potential supporters yeah it reminds you you see that video and rans you have that lynching scene the lynching mob in the simpsons where they go after someone and someone yells no that's not him it's the other guy and the lynch mob just turns around and goes to the other guy like they just want the lynch and then they're just turning to whatever is it's gonna be it's a pretty remarkable video i have a last hutzpah nominee if i may um this comes close to home the israeli the idf home front command now normal times this is a very well respected well regarded institution it's a very important unit in the idf it tells the israeli citizens how to protect themselves at times of crisis and and tension even i can tell you that the night of the iran attack and other events like these there's a representative of the idf home front command sitting in the studio uh telling people giving them advice on how or instructions rather on how to act and what to do when to go to the shelter etc now why is there nominated in the hutzpah word because obviously through the when the iran story was breaking all through these days there was a round o'clock assessment and they decided to go back to normal meaning opening up kindergarten schools all of the activities for pessach but they made the decision at midnight on sunday now if you're a parent to small children you will not see this announcement at midnight you will be sleeping so most of the parents and a lot of the municipalities that had to organize the opening of these institutions sought in the morning so this was the situation on monday early morning one of the um people on twitter her name is rhele uh fifeld she's a copyright she said only in israel where you have nine hours to prepare for a drone attack but only 15 minutes to prepare three children to go to kindergarten uh they united all of israeli's in the fury of this decision being made uh in midnight so just a little adding on to the hutzpah words of this
Speaker 2
week a rare moment of unity it seems and i feel like i do i do get a dimension award is what you're saying i detect a certain degree of personal investment in this story from you you know i can't imagine i can't imagine why just that sort of talk of three children and getting them out and to school yeah
Speaker 3
you try to convince three small children who thought they're having the day off at home to go to school in kindergarten good luck with that even your you know beautiful words can't get that to
Speaker 2
happen um despite the fact that they did bring the uh the kate and the nation together we're not saying that the home front command is the mentor the week instead you have another suggestion for that
Speaker 3
i do i do and this is harris and baiter he's a center fielder uh for the new york myths that is a conclusion of my knowledge in baseball but very big star and he as jewish he has been wearing not only the star of david on his belt also the necklace of the hostages given to him he's also walking around with that i'm sad to say these are days in which doing both of these things is considered courageous but i think that we should point out that people who are in the public eye and do this with no trepidation or people that i think that we should mention uh and he is i think quite a mention
Speaker 2
in that regard a good choice um it remains for us to to wish our listeners a very good and happy and peaceful pessach we hope that we can get that at the very least and if there are uh families coming together with different opinions do go back to that episode where rabbi angela bookdahl gave some very good tips for how to handle that just last friday and she also burst into song rather beautifully so that will get you in the mood you can go back and listen to that segment as we all prepare for pessach
Speaker 3
and we will start our thank you to gai-glazir omer primmats omer brach and sneeriamine and you have a a calm pessach i think is the word i'm looking for yeah and i
Speaker 2
wish you very much the same yoni i mean you know it's even more important that it's calm where you are but to everyone listening and to you all of all of you
Speaker 3
hag samir

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