Ruth Ben-Ghiat
The Back Room with Andy Ostroy
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The Power of Laughter
Trump spends a huge amount of his time being a propaganda. He's oozing charisma to the people who like that. When Trump talks about woke or whatever, it's a show when DeSantis does it. It's a Yoner because to your point, he is a wooden human. So I'll go stand in the rain for four fucking hours and watch him talk about himself and what a victim he is for another two hours. Yeah, the victimhood thing is really hard. Because he makes me laugh. Isn't that just that?"
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