Ravi Agrawal: There are assumptions embedded in the way meditation and contemplative practice is talked about in our world right now, and those assumptions have consequences. He says we meditate always with some kind of view going on, always with a relationship and perspective on reality. A phenomenological approach allows us to go from the basis of appearance or experience or perception," he says.
In this conversation with meditation teacher and author Rob Burbea we discuss the role of fantasy in meditation, the purpose of what Rob calls the 'Soulmaking Dharma' and some common traps that can obstruct our connection with beauty on the contemplative path.
This was the first conversation I had with Rob (there are two more you can listen to in the Emerge podcast stream). For various reasons I decided not to release it immediately after we recorded it, feeling that the subsequent conversations did a better job of communicating what I wanted to communicate. There were also some nasty recording problems that made it difficult at times for the conversation to be fluid and flowing. In any case this is a lovely coversation and I hope you enjoy! 🙏