I think it's unknowable. What we don't really know is what that dynamic was. Some people, and I'm one of them, suspects Ivanka was way more positively influential than we'll ever know. She was on a very short list of people who, if she disagreed with Trump, he would stop and listen. We don't know if any of that mattered. If it was any topics they disagreed on that made a difference. Don Jr's the next question. Do you think he would be all in? I feel like he was signaling that he would be. He needed to be defined as somebody who had skills, not a crazy clown running for publicity. The mainstream, even his

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