I would say that I have been obsessively looking into this stuff for the last 15 plus years 20 years maybe. It's more of like a self-expiration I'm just fascinated with it and so I keep going down these rabbit holes and figuring it out. You should ever wait to start on your passions before you have some events to allow you to do that get after at night's two weekendslike be tenacious yes. The only way I knew how to help people when I was younger through this journey of like reclaiming a resilient human experience was being a doctor, he says.

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