M, i wasat at one level, a bit surprised to hear you say that, because it seemed to me a bit out of left field. But the more i thought about it, the more it seemed to fit with just how interested you are in colonialism and post colonialism in your books. I think, if anything, ministry is a book about post colonial politics just as much as it's a book about climate politics. It tries to stick to the realities of what we see in our typical, empirical reality in a way that magical realism allows itself to skip aside on from time to time for symbolic purpose. And since there's a reversion to the mean portraying it is like a magic trick