What We Have Learned From the Pandemic

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I think, i see a lot of progress since the early eighties. We've all had our consciousness expanded to be more r receptive to people different from us. The rates of violent crime have really plummeted since the early nineties. Social polishe policies that were considered french politics just a few years ago, are now seriously in debated by conservative politicians. Will we apply them to the climate catastrophe? And, you know, will we a these social and environmental polises?

Michael Shermer speaks with scientist, educator, activist, and accomplished author, Fritjof Capra, about the evolution of his thinking over five decades. In this conversation, based on Capra’s book, Patterns of Connection, Shermer and Capra discuss: what it means to be spiritual in an age of science, nuclear energy and why Capra thinks we don’t need it and Shermer thinks we do, 50 years of progress or regress, limitations of models and theories of reality, limitations of analogies between western physics and eastern mysticism, mind and consciousness, and why Capra is hopeful for the future of humanity.