If we had at much higher sustained energy prices because of ukraine, russia or whatever else, it would kind of be a defacto carbon tax that we've been unable to implement for a long time. It's the market itself and an depletion and geo political risk cause higher prices. If no growth, then financial recalebration. And once that happens, then all kinds of other things bubble up and become important. We have so much energy dependent stuff that we've become used to. When i grew up, it was unusual for a family to have a car. Most of us got around either walking or yo used public transport. Increasingly here, you can't go anywhere

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