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[Bonus] Palmer Luckey of Anduril Industries on China, DefenseTech, and U.S. Policy | The HIll & Valley

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Future of Defectors

There's a lot of things that we can be doing differently, he says. We need to bring back defectors and make it possible for them to come here ourselves,. China is very good at these things, but there's actually not a huge number of people that keep everything running.

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