A, i do think that we absolutely have a responsibility to make prospective students aware. There's more reasons to get a ph d than just to become a tenured professor somewhere. Getting a phd is an education. It youre in school, you're getting a degree. And so it's not like you've completely wasted your time if you get a phD and then don't end up being a professor. I'm much convinced for the post stocks as well - they help make professors really productive. A, i actually give credit to kimbody, who was a graduate student of mine,. She said she wish there were fewer post ocks out there because of exactly this reasoning.