
Episode 239 - Ben Gibbard
Sodajerker On Songwriting
I'll Never Give Up on You
Ben Gibbard: I'll never give up on you is such a strong closing track. We wanted to end on something that was an exhale of sorts rather than another deep dive into the musings about environmental destruction or something, you know? Like, we wanted to keep a little light at the end. That was Ben Gibbard talking to us about the new album and what a brilliant guy Simon Meadows is.
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