There has to be a space for, even if it's a tiny number of people, some couples want the traditional gender roles. And then the tricky part would be making sure that it is their authentic desire and not that they're just folding in the face of societal pressure. It's like the society is built for us to channel us into, into these sort of paths. So all these sort of pressures and structures do distract us from what might otherwise be an authentic choice.

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