Sally Kohn: I think what was interesting for me to hear is everyone thinks they're working to some end, right? Of which they have millions of dollars in the bank account and therefore they're successful. But I heard you say that that was actually more depressing than potentially having to lay off your friends or like going through the whole entrepreneurial journey with your first company because you were a little aimless in now. What do I do? Right? And I had this money and I've been working to this end, but it wasn't as fulfilling as maybe you thought it was going to be. That I think ultimately led to Spotify, right? Combining to interests that you had together

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